Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

04/12/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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          HB 139-CORRESPONDENCE STUDY PROGRAM FUNDING                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:00:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  139,   "An  Act  relating  to  funding  for                                                               
correspondence study programs."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:01:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  SEXTON,  Staff,  Representative Justin  Ruffridge,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  presented HB 139 on  behalf of Representative                                                               
Ruffridge, prime sponsor, via PowerPoint,  titled "House Bill 139                                                               
Correspondence Study Program Funding."   He proceeded to slide 2,                                                               
titled  "Correspondence  Programs,"   which  stated  that  Alaska                                                               
provides   publicly  funded   homeschool   options  through   its                                                               
correspondence  programs, including  options to  educate children                                                               
at  home,  and  to access  state-approved  curriculum,  certified                                                               
teachers,  and  funding  for  materials.    On  slide  3,  titled                                                               
"Statewide statistics,"  he explained  that currently,  there are                                                               
34  correspondence programs  across Alaska  serving approximately                                                               
20,000  students representing  just over  15 percent  of students                                                               
statewide for accessing this option,  which is what many consider                                                               
to be  homeschooling.  He  continued to slide 4,  titled "Special                                                               
Needs multiplier,"  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •  Vocational  education,   special  education  (except                                                                    
     intensive    special     education),    gifted/talented                                                                    
     education,   and  bilingual/bicultural   education  are                                                                    
     block funded.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
        A district  must  file a  plan  with the  department                                                                    
     indicating  the special  needs  services  that will  be                                                                    
     provided, per AS 14.17.420 (b),  to qualify for special                                                                    
     needs funding.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
       Special needs multiplier is 1.20                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SEXTON  pointed out  that currently,  correspondence students                                                               
do not receive the special needs multiplier.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:03:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SEXTON  explained that  slide  5,  titled "Funding,"  showed                                                               
correspondence  programs  currently  receive 90  percent  of  the                                                               
Average Daily Membership (ADM) funding,  and he noted it had been                                                               
adjusted over time.  He  briefly highlighted the bullet points on                                                               
slide   6,   titled   "Brick  and   mortar   space   needed   for                                                               
Correspondence  Programs,"   which  read  as   follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Monthly lease agreements                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • Libraries                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • Resource rooms                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Office space                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • Rental space for testing                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • Equipment, internet, set up/tear down                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • IT equipment and support services                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SEXTON continued on slide  7, titled "Funding change under HB
139," where  he clarified  the bill proposed  an increase  to 100                                                               
percent  of  the  ADM, and  correspondence  programs  would  also                                                               
receive the 1.20  multiplier.  He recommended  the committee hear                                                               
next from the invited testifiers,  who could provide more context                                                               
and information on how the specific programs would be impacted.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:05:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEAN  O'DELL, Director,  Interior  Distance  Education of  Alaska                                                               
(IDEA),  provided invited  testimony in  support of  HB 139.   He                                                               
began  a PowerPoint,  titled "IDEA  Homeschool Interior  Distance                                                               
Education of Alaska  Galena City School District."   He proceeded                                                               
to the  second slide,  which highlighted the  role (IDEA)  has in                                                               
the public schools and about its  service to Alaska.  He noted he                                                               
would be sharing some of IDEA's challenges and opportunities.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:06:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEB MACKIE,  Assistant Director,  Interior Distance  Education of                                                               
Alaska, as  an invited  testifier, joined  the presentation  on a                                                               
slide, titled "IDEA  exists to serve Alaska  students," where she                                                               
stressed  IDEA's  support  of   parents  in  their  homeschooling                                                               
endeavors  by partnering  with them  and providing  resources, as                                                               
well as  becoming a  network of  support.   She continued  onto a                                                               
slide, titled "Service  to Alaska," and explained that  IDEA is a                                                               
public school, and  a school of choice -  meaning the approximate                                                               
6,700 students choose IDEA willingly.   The slide also featured a                                                               
map showing  how far  students are  spread throughout  the state.                                                               
She  proceeded to  a  slide, titled  "Service  to Alaska,"  which                                                               
highlighted what  is provided to  students in each  IDEA facility                                                               
in the six regions.  She  noted there would be more discussion on                                                               
the facilities later in the presentation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:09:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'DELL continued to present  on a slide, titled "Challenges &                                                               
Opportunities,"   where   he   established   that   conversations                                                               
surrounding  the education  funding model  have been  beneficial,                                                               
specifically shedding  light on the fact  correspondence programs                                                               
do not  receive all the multipliers  in the model.   He confirmed                                                               
that  IDEA  receives   only  90  percent  of   the  Base  Student                                                               
Allocation (BSA)  and currently, IDEA  is working with  less than                                                               
the minimum.  He touched  on unfunded obligations, which would be                                                               
discussed in  more detail  as the presentation  moved along.   He                                                               
continued to  the next three slides,  titled "Special Education,"                                                               
and explained that  IDEA and other correspondence  schools do not                                                               
receive special  education funding from  the state.   Despite not                                                               
having a  special needs funding  factor, IDEA serves  450 special                                                               
needs students.   This is an important responsibility  for a very                                                               
large  population   of  students,   and  IDEA   provides  special                                                               
education  staff,   pathologists,  therapists,   and  significant                                                               
ongoing support from regular education staff.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:14:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'DELL proceeded  on the  next two  slides, titled  "Testing                                                               
Expenses," and  he pointed out  the "serious  difference" between                                                               
testing  in   a  brick-and-mortar  program,  and   testing  in  a                                                               
correspondence school.   Testing is logistically  challenging and                                                               
expensive,  he said.    He paraphrased  the  second slide  titled                                                               
"Testing Expenses,"  which read as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •IDEA serves  111 communities,  with  dozens that  have                                                                    
     test-age students.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •Very  few local  schools are  still in  a position  to                                                                    
     welcome IDEA students  for testing.(Staffing shortages,                                                                    
     for one.)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     •IDEA  must then  also find,  hire and  train qualified                                                                    
     individuals.  In some  cases,  our  staff must  travel.                                                                    
     Equipment  will be  shipped; rental  agreements signed;                                                                    
     internet connections established.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •In larger  communities, an IDEA  office may  be closed                                                                    
     for weeks  to accommodate  regular ed. and  special ed.                                                                    
     testing  needs.  Some  regions cannot  accommodate  the                                                                    
     hundreds  of students  during the  testing window,  and                                                                    
     need to rent large,  often expensive venues. Additional                                                                    
     proctors   will   be   hired  and   trained.   Internet                                                                    
     connections will be established,  and equipment will be                                                                    
     set  up and  torn down  on a  daily basis  for days  or                                                                    
     weeks.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'DELL  then   moved  to  a  slide,   titled  "Facilities  -                                                               
throughout  Alaska,"   that  highlighted  what  is   provided  in                                                               
facilities  around  the   state.    He  stated   it  takes  large                                                               
facilities to house even basic  services for over 6,000 students,                                                               
and provided  are libraries,  offices, tech  departments, special                                                               
education services and more.  He  noted it takes $1.3 million per                                                               
year to keep  IDEA facilities open, which does  not include costs                                                               
to maintain the facilities.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:18:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'DELL  continued  on a  slide,  titled  "Expected  Unfunded                                                               
Obligations,"   where  he   briefly   summarized  components   of                                                               
"Mandated Map Growth Testing," and "Alaska Reads Act."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MACKIE rejoined  the  discussion while  the  next slide  was                                                               
shown, titled  "Our promise  to Alaska..."   She  reiterated that                                                               
IDEA believed  in all of  its students  and stressed the  need to                                                               
serve them well.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:21:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'DELL concluded on slide 15,  titled "And a Call to Action,"                                                               
and  stated "We  do  plead for  financial relief  to  be able  to                                                               
support  these  important  responsibilities and  these  important                                                               
people - these  students."  He thanked the  committee members for                                                               
their consideration of HB 139.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:22:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  thanked the  presenters  for  their service  to                                                               
Alaska and  "filling the void"  during the COVID-19  pandemic and                                                               
continuing to do so.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:23:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS HAYMAN,  Principal, Connections Homeschool  Program, gave                                                               
invited   testimony  on   HB  139,   via  a   PowerPoint,  titled                                                               
"Connections  Homeschool   Correspondence  Program"   [hard  copy                                                               
included  in the  committee packet].    He advanced  to slide  2,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      There are ways to verify student learning other than                                                                      
     state testing.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   • MAPS                                                                                                                       
   • Curriculum based assessments                                                                                               
   • Quarterly grades/report cards                                                                                              
   • Promotion rate upsilon Graduation rate                                                                                     
   • As long as testing is an option, many homeschool                                                                           
     families will opt out                                                                                                      
   • 1/3 of school aged students on the Kenai Peninsula are                                                                     
     homeschooled. Their education needs to be funded.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYMAN noted  that  as long  as testing  is  an option,  many                                                               
homeschool  families will  opt out.    He proceeded  to slide  3,                                                               
titled "Expenses  in Brick and  Mortar vs  Correspondence," which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   • Brick and Mortar                                                                                                         
   • Facilities- high                                                                                                           
   • Utilities- high                                                                                                            
   • Staffing- high                                                                                                             
   • Activities- high                                                                                                           
   • Administration- high                                                                                                       
   • Transportation- medium                                                                                                     
   • Zero allotment to families                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • Correspondence                                                                                                           
   • Facilities- low                                                                                                            
   • Utilities- low                                                                                                             
   • Staffing- low                                                                                                              
   • Activities- low                                                                                                            
   • Administration- low                                                                                                        
   • Transportation very low                                                                                                    
   • Allotment- over  of total                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN stated that only generalities are shown on slide 3,                                                                  
but he could provide the committee with specific numbers by                                                                     
district if it wished.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:26:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN continued to slide 4, which read as follows [original                                                                
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   • Allotment= $2700 per student (K-12)                                                                                        
   • Advisors- PTR of 90/1 approximately                                                                                        
   • Facilities; Partial Enrollment in neighborhood school                                                                      
     if wanted (2 classes)                                                                                                      
   •  Allotments for late enrollments (Oct 10-Jan 1)                                                                            
   • Curriculum for "non-allotment" students so they can                                                                        
     earn credit                                                                                                                
   • SPED   (IEP)   facilitation    and   partnership   with                                                                    
     neighborhood schools                                                                                                       
   • Administration.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN pointed out that  Connections does not incur the "huge                                                               
costs" that IDEA  had discussed.  He proceeded to  slide 5, which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Assessment facilitation upsilon                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        • AKStar upsilon                                                                                                        
        • Maps upsilon                                                                                                          
        • ACT/SAT- (partner with KPBSD High Schools) upsilon                                                                    
        • High level math upsilon Other reporting data upsilon                                                                  
               Weighted GPA calculation (not on our                                                                             
               transcripts) upsilon                                                                                             
          APS Calculation (Admission Point Score) upon                                                                          
               request                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:30:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN concluded on slide  6, which read as follows [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Theoretically, what would we do if BSA increased from                                                                      
     90% to 100% and/or 1.2 multiplier was added?                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
        • This is a district level decision                                                                                     
        • My recommendations                                                                                                    
               Increase allotment (we recently raised to                                                                        
               $2700 k-12)                                                                                                      
               Change policy to allow for transportation                                                                        
               costs for parents                                                                                                
               Provide remote Vocational Programing                                                                             
               Improve systems (software, financial,                                                                            
               delivery, information, etc.)                                                                                     
               Increase Coop support                                                                                            
               Support facilities for activities                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN  reminded the  committee that  this would  be district                                                               
level  decision  making,  which  is  outside  the  scope  of  his                                                               
expertise.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:34:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  referred to  the individual  education plan                                                               
that is mandated from the  federal government, and asked how much                                                               
is used  on special education  staff.  She directed  her question                                                               
to both Connections, and IDEA.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAYMAN  replied  that  Connections'  specialists,  including                                                               
psychologists, are  with the  district.   He also  confirmed that                                                               
Individualized Education Plans (IEP)  are written by Connections'                                                               
certified special education staff.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'DELL confirmed  IDEA is  responsible for  the IEP  and, by                                                               
law, the responsibility  falls to the district of  residence.  In                                                               
reality, he  explained it becomes  a bit more complicated  by the                                                               
fact IDEA is a certified  school working within the boundaries of                                                               
another district.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:38:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY asked  if a fee is paid to  the district for                                                               
partial use of specialists.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'DELL replied  that since  IDEA does  not have  cooperative                                                               
agreements, everything is  done through its own  program, and all                                                               
specialists are  IDEA's responsibility; therefore, IDEA  does not                                                               
pay fees.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAYMAN replied  that since  Connections is  part of  a local                                                               
program, it is less expensive.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:41:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY sought clarification  that fees are not paid                                                               
to  the district  if  the  district is  part  of the  cooperative                                                               
agreement, and  that there is a  [payment] in kind to  the speech                                                               
and occupational therapists.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN replied Connections does  not need a [payment] in kind                                                               
because  it  is part  of  a  district  that  accesses a  team  of                                                               
psychologists and  specialists, and Connections is  part of "that                                                               
contributing district-wide."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'DELL stated  that with the few  cooperative agreements that                                                               
IDEA has, fees are not paid.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:43:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  asked Mr. O'Dell  if there is  a school                                                               
psychologist  at each  of  the sites  to do  testing,  or if  the                                                               
psychologists  must  be  transported  to  where  the  testing  is                                                               
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'DELL confirmed  IDEA does  have school  psychologists that                                                               
fly to each of its locations.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HIMSCHOOT   asked   Mr.  Sexton,   of   the   34                                                               
correspondence  programs, how  many  are statewide  and have  the                                                               
need for the brick-and-mortar spaces  similar to IDEA's needs, as                                                               
opposed to Connections, which doesn't  have the need due to being                                                               
imbedded.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SEXTON replied that there  are members from the Department of                                                               
Education  and  Early  Development   (DEED)  present  that  could                                                               
address the topic.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:44:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI TESHNER,  Acting Commissioner, Department of  Education and                                                               
Early  Development,  replied  to  Representative  Himschoot  that                                                               
about half are district-wide programs, and half are statewide.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked for  confirmation that means about                                                               
17  are  district imbedded,  and  17  serve students  across  the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHNER affirmed that is correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  referred  to   the  Alaska  READS  Act                                                               
funding  needs  that Mr.  O'Dell  had  previously discussed,  and                                                               
asked  if the  needs IDEA  has are  different from  the needs  of                                                               
other schools.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. O'DELL  replied that for  the most  part, they are  the same,                                                               
but there  could be  significant cost  difference in  the testing                                                               
expense.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:46:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  asked if  the allotment is  set locally                                                               
or if there is there some  directive on how much the allotment to                                                               
families is.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'DELL replied  that IDEA  sets  the amount  in response  to                                                               
listening to stakeholders and doing  as much as possible to honor                                                               
what their  needs are.  He  stated that inflation has  an impact,                                                               
and  the allotment  has increased  the past  two years  including                                                               
next year.   He reiterated  it is  within IDEA's control,  but in                                                               
response to the need that is presented by its stakeholders.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MACKIE  added that  IDEA does  its best  to give  the largest                                                               
portion of the funding directly to  the families to use for their                                                               
educational needs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN explained that Connections  is not quite parallel with                                                               
IDEA; Connections' allotment is fixed locally.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:49:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  asked to  understand why  the allotment                                                               
to  the  families  couldn't  be reduced  to  cover  expenses,  or                                                               
provide iPads needed for testing.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'DELL  replied that theoretically  IDEA could, but  it would                                                               
cause parents issues; everything the student needs costs money.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:51:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN  explained that Connections provides  tech support for                                                               
computers and printers to families at no cost.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT   stated  that   she  had   received  a                                                               
resolution about  changing funding  to accommodate  special needs                                                               
and  correspondence  programs  that  came in  from  seven  school                                                               
districts.   She asked why IDEA  and Connections did not  sign on                                                               
to this request.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MACKIE stated  she believed  the said  resolution is  in the                                                               
appendix, and she confirmed IDEA had signed on.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  affirmed she  saw a signature  now, but                                                               
it did not say IDEA.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN  stated he  would get  confirmation from  his district                                                               
office and get back to the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:54:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY directed  her question  to IDEA,  regarding                                                               
its responsibility towards  any grievances or legal  issues.  She                                                               
also commented in regard to  the levels of special education, and                                                               
if there were any intensive students.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:55:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'DELL replied  that by  the time  a student  is in  special                                                               
education it  is a tier 3,  and he confirmed there  are currently                                                               
no students in the intensive needs program.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY asked  Mr. O'Dell  to confirm  that Galena,                                                               
Alaska,  is his  school district  of  record, and  if so,  Galena                                                               
would be  legally responsible  if there was  a grievance  with an                                                               
individual education plan.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'DELL replied that is the  "de facto situation," and the law                                                               
says the  responsibility falls  to the  district of  residence as                                                               
opposed to the district of record.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:00:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY asked  Mr. O'Dell  if students  who do  not                                                               
reside in  Juneau could attend  Career Technical  Education (CTE)                                                               
and other classes in Juneau.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'DELL  replied the only  way for  students to attend  CTE in                                                               
Juneau is  to "dual enroll" with  Juneau.  At that  point, Juneau                                                               
receives partial or all of the funding from the state of Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:03:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  directed  her  next concern  to  DEED,  in                                                               
reference to regulations for testing and screening.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHNER replied  that DEED has procured with  Amplify for the                                                               
literacy screener tied  to the Alaska READS Act.   In response to                                                               
a  follow-up  question,  offered  her understanding  that  it  is                                                               
computer-based screening and that she  could check to verify that                                                               
at a  later date.   To another questions  regarding connectivity,                                                               
she replied  that for all  of the assessment testing,  DEED works                                                               
with district  test coordinators to  find out what  the bandwidth                                                               
capabilities are.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY asked if  the correspondence programs within                                                               
the districts are included.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHNER replied yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD,   regarding  IEPs,   asked  whether   IDEA  and                                                               
Connections   believe   most   parents    are   coming   to   the                                                               
correspondence  courses because  they are  not getting  what they                                                               
should be getting in the brick-and-mortar schools.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  O'DELL replied  absolutely, parents  come to  IDEA routinely                                                               
and  in many  cases -  mainly  special education  - the  parents'                                                               
perception is that the child's needs are not being met.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAYMAN responded  that flexibility  is  a key  point in  the                                                               
decision making to lean towards correspondence programs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:08:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD asked aside from  getting the BSA, if any federal                                                               
or city grants are received.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'DELL  responded IDEA  does not  get local  contributions or                                                               
special  education  funding from  the  state.   All  schools  do,                                                               
however, get some title funds from the federal government.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAYMAN replied  that Connections  does not  get any  federal                                                               
funds directly, but  his district does get  federal funds through                                                               
Title 1.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD asked both Mr. O'Dell  and Mr. Hayman if it is an                                                               
accurate statement  that they are  asking for free  and equitable                                                               
opportunity for all students regardless  if they are in brick and                                                               
mortar or correspondence courses.   She asked for confirmation on                                                               
record.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. O'DELL replied yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HAYMAN replied yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:11:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCORMICK  asked for  an  explanation  as to  the                                                               
disparity in amounts between the two fiscal notes to HB 139.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:12:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELWIN  BLACKWELL,  School  Finance Manager,  School  Finance  and                                                               
Facilities  Section,  Finance   and  Support  Services  Division,                                                               
Department  of Education  and Early  Development, explained  that                                                               
there are always two fiscal  notes when dealing with a foundation                                                               
program, and  since DEED pays  out of the public  education fund,                                                               
the   foundation   program  fiscal   note   shows   zero.     The                                                               
"capitalization"  is  then shown  in  the  public education  fund                                                               
fiscal note.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:13:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SEXTON  pointed out that the  dollar amount is listed  in the                                                               
analysis  portion  of  the  DEED fiscal  note  [included  in  the                                                               
committee packet],  on the second page,  at the end of  the first                                                               
paragraph.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:13:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY asked  if the money goes to  the district of                                                               
record, and  then the district  of record decides how  much money                                                               
goes to the correspondence program.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BLACKWELL  confirmed that the  funding would go  only towards                                                               
the  districts that  have correspondence  program  students.   He                                                               
noted  the allotment  is  a  district decision  on  how much  the                                                               
allotment would increase, based on the increase in funding.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:15:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that HB 139 was held over.                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB106 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
HB0106A.PDF HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
HB0106-Fiscal Note.PDF HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
HB106 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
IDEA Presentation 4-2023.v1.3 041023 edit.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
IDEA Presentaiton
HB106- House Education Hearing Request.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 106
Appendix - AS 14.17.430 State Funding For Correspondence Study Letter.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
Appendix - AS 14.17.430
HB 139 Fiscal Note DEED_K12 Aid to Schools as of 3.29.23.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 Fiscal Note_Fund Capitalization as of 3.29.23.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 presentation.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139 Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139
HB 139- Connections Homeschool Correspondence Program.pdf HEDC 4/12/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 139